If you’re a fan of CSI type TV shows you would have liked
the lecture I went to this week titled, Tales
of a Medical Examiner. It was given by a guy who has literally done
thousands of autopsies for the county. By law they have to be done whenever a
death is unexpected, suspicious, accidental, violent, or no attending physician
was present. He views forensic medicine as a way of seeing past the tragedy and
focusing on giving answers to families and the community and he went into that
branch of medicine, he jokingly said, because they don’t have emergencies in
the morgue. We must have a bunch of morbid people down at the senior hall
because 165 signed up to see this presentation. The room doesn’t hold that many
and it’s rare that we have a waiting list for our Life Appreciation Lecture
Series.
He did a question and answer session before bringing on the
slide show. Ohmygod! There was nothing remotely shown like you’d see on TV. The
first case he talked about was of a guy who’d called the local funeral director
and told him to come to his house with a body bag because he was going to kill
himself. The funeral director called the police who had a long stand-off with
the guy who was waving a gun around, finally it ended with the guy having two
bullets in his head. It’s impossible to put two bullets in your own head if the
first one goes through brain matter and the forensic examiner had to make sure
the bullets were from his own gun and not from the police’s. Imagine a 12 foot wide
movie screen filled with close-up pictures of his bloody head. Imagine pictures
of his skull cap cut off so they could retrieve the bullets. One bullet went
through his chin upward and out his forehead, missing his brain. I couldn’t
even tell it was a face for the longest time until I finally located his ear. The
next bullet went from the top of his head downward. No one lost their stomach
contents viewing those gruesome slides but the mood of the room sure changed as
he walked us through the powder burns, suet, various colors of blood and the
shapes of entry and exist wounds. If anyone thinking of offing themselves with
a gun could see those slides they’d change their mind.
The second case he showed us slides of was a woman, also with
a gun shot in the head, but her mouth was duck taped shut. They treated it like
a homicide, ran a rape kit, and looked for signs of a struggle---the whole ball
of wax. Finding none, it was a true mystery until her diary was discovered where they learned
she taped her own mouth shut because she planned on taking a bunch of pills and
didn’t want to vomit them back up. The gun was her back up plan. The medical
examiner, a guy almost retirement age, said it still amazes him the things
people do to themselves and others. Another interesting fact he told was that
only 20% of suicides come with notes of explanation.
The third case he talked about was of a woman, found in a
bath tub full of water. He said no adult drowns in a bath tub unless something
else is going on---drugs, murder, health issues or suicide. It’s never an accident
unless it’s a small child who can’t push themselves above the water line. He
showed us the autopsy slides of her heart, proving she had a disease that made
her heart rhythm beat erratically, long enough for her to slide down in the
water and drown. And the moral of that story is never take a bath naked again
unless you want to end up with a dozen people coming and going in a potential
crime scene. Her bloated naked body was quite a shocking sight.
But the case that was the most shocking in more ways than
one was of a 21 year old guy who was high on fentanyl patches. He thought he girlfriend
was a zombie and he was going around a neighborhood, punching windows out with
his fists, and begging people to get a gun and shoot him. He took a dive off
the top of a balcony head first on the cement parking lot below. We got “treated”
to a dozen slides of his entire body including three slides of various views of
his penis and balls. Up close, full screen. And in case you’re wondering why
it’s because they were covered in pinky fingernail sized fentanyl patches.
The speaker said people hooked on fentanyl patches get very creative in ways to
get the most kick out of their patches. They’ll even soak them in water to get
the last drop of drugs out of them, then they’ll draw the water into a syringe
and shoot themselves up with it. Fentanyl overdoses drive people to do crazy,
crazy things and we’re in the middle of a fentanyl overdose epidemic because
it’s coming in cheap from China and it's cut into heroin.
I’ve been to other crime solving type lectures and one that walked
us through the steps of how bodies are embalmed. I’m not squeamish but I can
honestly say I couldn’t be a forensic pathologist nor would I want to be
married to one. “Guess what I did at
work today, honey,” is not something I’d like to hear over a dinner table. But
what the heck, a free lecture is a free lecture and I rarely turn down an
afternoon to learn something new. ©
Well, I learnt from your post, from the comfort of my home....most interesting. I'd definitely have put my hand up for that free lecture. Thanks for the review. ~ Libby
ReplyDeleteThe CSI type TV shows have made this topic popular. I've seen a few of them but I can take them or leave them. It was sure an interesting lecture. As medical examiners go, I like the one in "Garage Sale Mysteries" series better than in the CSI shows.
DeleteNot me! Your description was certainly informative but I never would have voluntarily looked at those pictures. They would have stayed with me for too long.
ReplyDeleteRegards,
Leze
I did not expect to see such graphic photos. I think the presentation was the same one as he'd give to students going into the field. The photo of the lady in the bathtub did stay with me all day, I guess, because it could happen to any of us who live alone.
DeleteBeing squeamish about blood and death, I'd have taken a pass on that, especially once I learned it was accompanied by visuals. Whomever sponsors all these programs you have available to you certainly gets a variety.
ReplyDeleteWe get these lectures for free because our senior hall director finds sponsors who pay the speaker fees for us in exchange for a table in the room where they can hand out information or whatever and they get an ad in our newsletter than goes out to over 2,000 seniors. We get good quality speakers, often authors and college professors. In addition to the Life Appreciation Series we have less attended lectures that have a fee attached that are more health related. I rarely go to those. We get a 24 page newsletter every two months full of stuff to do.
DeleteWow, I totally enjoyed your blog today. Of course, I'm a person who likes to read about things like this and I would of enjoyed that lecture with you. My wife always says to me that she would like to watch a person embalmed. I'm not sure about that but I wanted to see the photos of President Kennedy after when he was shot. I love both NCIS shows and old show CSI. See ya my friend.
ReplyDeleteCruisin Paul
Our senior hall goes on a tour and lecture called "Behind the Scenes" at a funeral hall. Every year 50 people sign up for it. You don't get to watch a person get embalmed but you get to see the room they do it in and are walked through all the steps they take, the science they have to use. I came away with a better understanding on why it costs so much. A couple of years ago we had a lecture about Kennedy's 'magic bullet' given by a guy from the police department and he concluded that bullets really can ricochet that way.
DeleteOnly 20% of suicides leave notes? Really? I can't imagine leaving without an explanation, but suicide is such an impulsive act, maybe they've lost the mood by the time they finish their note. By impulsive, I mean in that very moment. I'm sure people who do commit suicide think about it before hand, explore ways in which to do it, etc., but when it gets down to it, you have to really commit in that moment.
ReplyDeleteI never know what you will learn about next. It's never boring, that's for sure.
Are you getting my posts in bloglovin' or by email? Some people are having a problem. I hate this private thing.
Many of us were shocked about the lack of suicide notes. I'm guessing people who do it don't think anyone will care and/or they want to punish people by not leaving a note. I know a guy who killed himself and he wrote letters to each of his three kids and his wife. I just assumed most people do.
DeleteI've been just using my blog roll to access your blog but I see that isn't going to work out because your latest post didn't update in my list. I'll sign up to get it by email.
I find this "morbid" stuff interesting, but really can't watch it on TV anymore. Fred and I used to watch every CSI and police show on TV. After he died, I can't watch them anymore. Which is weird because he wasn't murdered or suicide. BTW--Fentanyl is my preferred drug for colonoscopies, tooth extractions, any kind of "putting me to sleep" thing. I feel great when I wake up. LOL
ReplyDeleteI think it's the science of solving mysteries that intrigues a lot a people who like those kinds of shows.
DeleteTo the best of my knowledge I've never had fentanyl and don't want it. The doctor who did my knee replacements and shoulder surgery said I have a very high tolerance for pain. He's always impressed. My sister-in-law struggled with prescription drug addiction and I saw what it did to her and her family, never want that to happen to me.
One year, I was on the grand jury and was treated to some of those awful pictures from murder cases. Not something I'd care to do again.
ReplyDeleteI would hate to be on a jury like that. You couldn't walk away or turn off the TV and you'd owe it to the system to pay attention.
DeleteI'm not sure I could do that graphic of a lecture. When it's on TV, I know it is pretend blood and brains. Have you read any of Patricia Cornwell's books? The main character is a medical examiner. The first few were very well done ... start in order so you can watch the characters grow and evolve!
ReplyDeleteI didn't expect it to be the graphic but it probably wouldn't have stopped me from going it I did. I did some starring at the floor at the first look.
DeleteNever read her before but I've heard she's a good writer. I'm not sure what kind of books I like to read anymore. I'm skipping all over the place.
This is something up my husbands alley. I could never look at the photos but I find the stories very interesting. You sure do some cool things Ms. Jean.
ReplyDeleteIt up a lot of people's alleys. Must be crowded up there. LOL
DeleteJean :
ReplyDeleteyou are amazing & I admire the fact that you will go attend these kind of lecture series. I don't think I will be ever interested in crime shows. I do believe what we watch & read has big impact on our life, s I like to read & watch selectively.oh in recent months one of the very famous indian actress died by drowning in bath tub in Dubai, &initially story was she suffered heart attack & drowned in tub later it changed that she was drunk & drowned who knows.
Asha
The authorities know which story is true. The blood test would know reveal her alcohol level. I guess it's a common way to drown.
DeleteI don't watch or read the horror genre for the reasons you mentioned. I don't want to fill up my brain with that stuff. But I will go to any lecture that works with my calendar and part of the time I don't even know what the topic will be...because I trust the director to line up interesting speakers. Only once in five years have I thought a lecture wasted my time.
I don't know if you have an Instagram account but if you do you might want to follow mrs_angemi. She is a pathology assistant and she posts some very graphic and interesting pictures!
ReplyDeleteI like to learn a little about a lot of things but it's really not my cup of tea. Someone else reading this might like to follow her, so on their behalf I thank you for posting about Mrs. Angemi.
DeletePretty sure I'd have volunteered for the lecture and possibly regretted it. We are so use to the sanitized versions on TV. It really is interesting though.
ReplyDeleteBoy, you hit the nail on the head regarding us being so used to the sanitized versions of the SCI work we see on TV. I think we were all shocked from the very first slide. I didn't regret going and I respect the people willing to do that kind of work BUT like I said up above, it's not my cup of tea to seek out again.
DeleteHave you watched Dr. G?
ReplyDeleteDr. G was a chief medical examiner. The show ended in 2012.
Dr. G. Was down earth. I like her. Didn’t see any penis or balls though.
No, I have not. But being it was on the Discovery Channel I'm sure it was well done.
DeleteOMYGOOSH! Slides of all this?!? I find it morbidly fascinating...as do a lot of folks given the size of your crowd and the popularity of all those CSI shows. So, I too went to an Osher Institute Lecture by a forensic pathologist. No slides though...just body bags and stories; the most unusual was of a man who'd had sex with a horse and died from it.....I can supply gross and sordid details upon request.
ReplyDeleteI would love to know the gross and sordid details of how that man died and if the horse was okay. Email me or post a common that I promise NOT to publish.
DeleteIf more people that write articles really concerned themselves with writing great content like you, more readers would be interested in their writings. Thank you for caring about your content.
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